Board Thread:Petitions/@comment-28083312-20170822225125/@comment-28083312-20170823165817

Utkar22 wrote: Say more admin features start rolling out (considering discussions is very important now for Wikia), will the repurposing be revertable? 100% revertable, but it’d be like killing a golden chicken because of one bad egg, so we would attempt to avoid that. QUEEN AYSHA wrote: 1) "Moderators" does not make sense to me, in the hierarchy. You totally confused my brain with that....just, what? Moderators = Junior Moderators = Discussions Moderators = Threadmoderators. QUEEN AYSHA wrote: Senior Moderators = Content moderators now, right? Yes, Content Moderators are Senior Moderators currently, but they would be turned into near-Admins, with all of the old Admin rights except for MediaWiki access & a few other powerful tools. QUEEN AYSHA wrote: But after all this and the Tribunal (I support), content moderators won't exist (or be the same, anyways) Correct. QUEEN AYSHA wrote: …because rollbacks will be code peeps… Correct. QUEEN AYSHA wrote: …and people who are code peeps and "leader admins" will be better than only leader admins? As in higher up? No, they would just have both rights. A leader admin (“Community Admin”) who is just a leader admin is not lesser than a leader admin who is also a Code Admin, at least in regards to hierarchy & moderation. The two groups together make up most of the old admin rights, but hierarchically they are not comparable. Code Admin is off on its own. QUEEN AYSHA wrote: But then this is where I get confused: in your explanation it's not really clear to me the difference between the new moderators and the sentinels. Especially in the line: "…the Chat Moderator group, & it would become our Sentinels all-in-one"  …because you never said Junior/Discussions moderators wouldn't have any change done to them, besides losing rollback rights? Maybe? You see my confusion here? Will it be: a) Junior (Discussion) moderator = Leader admin  or  b) Junior moderator<Leader admin  or  c) Junior moderator completely reworked, new moderator description = ?????  ?????? Sentinels are Chat Mods, but chat mods as an internal group will be given Rollback tools, block tools, & a few other abilities. Right now, Sentinel = Rollback + Chat Mod. In the future, it will be simply Sentinel = Chat Mod.  “Moderators” are just Discussion Moderators, that’s it. They would be below leader admins (“Community Admins”), & Sentinels (Chat Mods) would also be below Community Admins. It is the job of Community Admins to promote Sentinels & Moderators.  Please scroll up & look at the big Tables titled “New Hierarchy,” they explain how it would be (people are voting for one or the other). If a group is below another group on the table, then it is lower on the hierarchy. If a group is above another group on the table, then it is higher on the table. If a group is beside another group on the table, then it is equal-to or incomparable-to the other group. QUEEN AYSHA wrote: 2) ??????? (again) @ Banana's names Why the heck would you name Community Administrators "CORRUPT Leaders" ??????? Joke lol QUEEN AYSHA wrote: But, even though I don't understand the bottom half re-work, this doesn't really have to do with me much anyways. I can maybe even become a Sentinel again with more ease after this. So, I vote to support this. Separating staff with great coding skills from staff who have great social skills is a brilliant idea. Thank you! :D