Project:Chat/Logs/2 May 2017

 [12:32]  Hello Ursuul [12:32]  Ay no [12:33]  glitched chat [12:33]  hiya [12:33]  a [12:33]  a [12:33]  a [12:33]  a [12:33]  a [12:33]  fuck [12:33]  oh there we go [12:33]  chat was glitched [12:33]  a [12:33]  Okey, I'm here Ursuul [12:33]  alright [12:33] <Ursuul> rip chat [12:33] <Ursuul> borked to hell [12:33] <QUEEN AYSHA> I know [12:33] <QUEEN AYSHA> my pings just broke, and I think it's because I put the red text code in two places [12:34] <QUEEN AYSHA> though I'm not sure [12:34] <QUEEN AYSHA> I'm being pinged by red text [12:34] <SuperRobot9338> hi [12:34] <QUEEN AYSHA> and EVERYTHING is red [12:34] <QUEEN AYSHA> hello [12:34] <Ursuul> rip [12:34] <Ursuul> you know [12:34] <Ursuul> you should just uninstall the pings again [12:34] <QUEEN AYSHA> I dunno what to do, Ursuul-- [12:34] <Ursuul> if they’re that bugged [12:34] <QUEEN AYSHA> I will......I just, ugh [12:34] <Ursuul> :/ [12:34] <QUEEN AYSHA> I have limited time [12:35] <SuperRobot9338> btw [12:35] <SuperRobot9338> restricting forum games is a dumb idea [12:35] <QUEEN AYSHA> ^^^^THANK YOU [12:35] <SuperRobot9338> I took a glace at the ones in off-topic [12:35] <Ursuul> it’s more for PR than anything [12:35] <SuperRobot9338> PR? [12:35] <Ursuul> Public Relations [12:35] <SuperRobot9338> As in killing off users? [12:35] <QUEEN AYSHA> hold up, I'm getting rid of borkified script [12:35] <QUEEN AYSHA> I'll brb I guess [12:35] <Ursuul> ok Aysh [12:35] <SuperRobot9338> I know what PR is Ursuula [12:35] <Ursuul> but yeah, you saw what I said about Discussions [12:36] <QUEEN AYSHA> I'll tell you all my struggles as usual [12:36] <QUEEN AYSHA> bye [12:36] <Ursuul> if we let it be like that, then we’ll turn into fucking facebook within a week [12:36] <Ursuul> ok [12:36] <SuperRobot9338> forum games should be allowed in discussions, still [12:36] <Ursuul> there’s a problem with that [12:36] <SuperRobot9338> facebook with users is better than forum with none [12:36] <Ursuul> since these games garner usually high participation [12:36] <Ursuul> it’ll artificially float them in trending [12:36] <SuperRobot9338> oh [12:36] <Ursuul> &amp; we’ll have a bunch of cancerous games broadcast all across the Wiki [12:36] <Ursuul> everywhere [12:37] <Ursuul> you know Topics that show up at the bottom of pages? [12:37] <Ursuul> when forum closes [12:37] <Ursuul> that will turn into trending discussions [12:37] <Ursuul> on every single page [12:37] <SuperRobot9338> so you want to starve our community so that the dinner menu looks more attractive [12:37] <SuperRobot9338> I know it's not ideal [12:37] <SuperRobot9338> but this will do far more harm than good [12:37] <Ursuul> Closing off forum games does not hurt the Wiki [12:37] <QUEEN AYSHA> I'll be back after dinner [12:37] <Ursuul> but not closing them off [12:37] <SuperRobot9338> yes it does [12:37] <Ursuul> will instead make us look like idiots [12:38] <QUEEN AYSHA> but plz Ursuul [12:38] <Ursuul> no it doesn’t &amp; I’ll tell ye why [12:38] <QUEEN AYSHA> URSUUL [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> Ursuul [12:38] <QUEEN AYSHA> don't- [12:38] <Ursuul> Aysh I hear ye [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> you say this is for PR [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> but what's the bigger issue [12:38] <QUEEN AYSHA> Don't do anything stupid: Find the compromise [12:38] <Ursuul> Now SR, if you’re spending 100% of the time playing games [12:38] <Ursuul> then you aren’t editing articles [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> having forum games featured [12:38] <QUEEN AYSHA> No goodbye [12:38] <Ursuul> it’s not a positive effect on the Wiki [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> or having so many users leave [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> ik [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> BUT [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> I thought you said this was about PR [12:38] <Ursuul> it is [12:38] <SuperRobot9338> This is like doing the Purge because "it'll make us look neater" [12:39] <QUEEN AYSHA> ....Ursuul calm yourself lol [12:39] <QUEEN AYSHA> I'm afraid to leave [12:39] <Ursuul> I’m perfectly calm lass [12:39] <QUEEN AYSHA> alright [12:39] <QUEEN AYSHA> if you say so [12:39] <QUEEN AYSHA> but bye [12:39] <Ursuul> bai Aysh :( [12:39] <SuperRobot9338> i gtg in 7 [12:39] <Ursuul> SR, these games do not help us, but it can make us look immature, &amp; that doesn’t help attract good editors [12:40] <Ursuul> it’s better that we have 1 good, adult editor than 20 12 year olds [12:40] <Ursuul> the one adult will benefit the Wiki leagues more [12:40] <SuperRobot9338> hmmm [12:40] <Ursuul> I mean look at Midas [12:40] <SuperRobot9338> -_- [12:41] <SuperRobot9338> I know Midas is gud [12:41] <Ursuul> he’s the ONLY code editor we’ve ever managed to nab in a permanent capacity [12:41] <Ursuul> ONE [12:41] <Ursuul> in a year [12:41] <SuperRobot9338> still [12:41] <Ursuul> of such a popular game [12:41] <Ursuul> only one came [12:41] <Ursuul> &amp; that was because I knew him elsewhere, which is why he got into this game [12:41] <SuperRobot9338> Killing off forum games will make many users inactive [12:41] <SuperRobot9338> If there are many users [12:41] <SuperRobot9338> but not all of them edit articles [12:41] <SuperRobot9338> It looks better than having one user [12:42] <SuperRobot9338> that does edit articles [12:42] <Ursuul> Honestly? What’s better, 3 code editors/SFU tier editors &amp; 30 editors leaving, or 30 editors staying who can’t do anything at all to help the Wiki? [12:42] <SuperRobot9338> Would you join a dead wiki? [12:42] <Ursuul> well, more like won’t [12:42] <Ursuul> would you join a Wiki of children? [12:42] <Ursuul> I know the answer is yes [12:42] <SuperRobot9338> at least it has potential [12:42] <Ursuul> but for many people it’s no [12:42] <SuperRobot9338> ehh [12:43] <Ursuul> think about this [12:43] <Ursuul> if you left because you couldn’t play a freaking forum game [12:43] <SuperRobot9338> there isn't a wiki in the History of Fandom that has improved its prestige by exterminating forumers [12:43] <Ursuul> then honestly how much did you care about the Wiki at all? [12:43] <Ursuul> I’m not saying exterminate forumers [12:43] <Ursuul> Forum iz gud [12:43] <Ursuul> cuz in Off Topic it’s hidden [12:43] <Ursuul> nicely compact [12:43] <SuperRobot9338> by forumers i mean forum gamers [12:44] <Ursuul> actually [12:44] <Ursuul> that’s incorrect [12:44] <Ursuul> look at Star Wars [12:44] <Ursuul> I know their head Moderator, he’s a councilor [12:44] <Ursuul> I’ve debated him a lot [12:44] <Ursuul> because he’s more conservative than me [12:44] <Ursuul> he kills anything that isn’t absolutely serious [12:44] <Ursuul> about the WIki pages [12:44] <Ursuul> not just star wars [12:44] <Ursuul> just Wiki Pages [12:44] <Ursuul> that’s all you can talk about [12:44] <Ursuul> &amp; their Discussions are the largest on all of Fandom [12:44] <Ursuul> period [12:45] <SuperRobot9338> We aren't the Star Wars Wiki [12:45] <Ursuul> yes but a successful model is a successful model [12:45] <SuperRobot9338> We don't have a core of active adult editors [12:45] <Ursuul> &amp; we won’t ever get that core if we look like idiots [12:46] <SuperRobot9338> We won't look like idiots because of forum games [12:46] <SuperRobot9338> No one but you likes this idea [12:47] <SuperRobot9338> Besides [12:47] <Ursuul> That’s not relevant to whether this will help the Wiki or not [12:47] <Ursuul> democracy is democracy [12:47] <Ursuul> but the right thing to do is the right thing to do [12:47] <Ursuul> regardless [12:47] <SuperRobot9338> Couldn't we use JS to hide the forum games from the bottom? [12:47] <Captain Hayden> ^ [12:47] <Ursuul> against the ToU [12:47] <Ursuul> illegal [12:47] <SuperRobot9338> ahh [12:47] <Ursuul> would get rejected [12:47] <SuperRobot9338> eh [12:48] <Captain Hayden> Well forum games, even though they are a pain should still exist but in a smaller volume [12:48] <Ursuul> yes but there’s still a problem [12:48] <Captain Hayden> What? [12:48] <Ursuul> you know forum game threads are usually hundreds of replies long right? [12:48] <Captain Hayden> Right... [12:48] <SuperRobot9338> Anyway [12:48] <Ursuul> That will float these discussions to the top in Trending [12:48] <SuperRobot9338> bye [12:48] <Ursuul> cya SR [12:48] <Ursuul> when that happens, that will display ONLY forum games [12:48] <Captain Hayden> Ahh [12:48] <Ursuul> on every single page on the Wiki [12:48] <SuperRobot9338> I don't think this will help at all [12:49] <Ursuul> true [12:49] <Captain Hayden> So we can't get rid of it using JS? [12:49] <SuperRobot9338> mmhmm [12:49] <Ursuul> no [12:49] <Ursuul> against ToU [12:49] <SuperRobot9338> against ToU [12:49] <Ursuul> but yeah SR, it may not help, but it will stop our image from being destroyed [12:49] <Ursuul> it’s fine now [12:49] <Captain Hayden> Well damn. What about moving forum games to blog posts? [12:49] <Ursuul> but if these silly games are splattered across every single game [12:49] <Ursuul> oooo [12:49] <Ursuul> that’s a good idea [12:49] <SuperRobot9338> our image will not be destroyed by continuing something we have always done [12:50] <SuperRobot9338> Blog posts... [12:50] <SuperRobot9338> hmm [12:50] <Ursuul> No it very much will. Right now our games are hidden in off-topic [12:50] <Ursuul> they aren’t broadcast everywhere [12:50] <Ursuul> if they hit Discussions, they will be [12:50] <Captain Hayden> True true [12:50] <Ursuul> literally every single page on the Wiki [12:50] <Captain Hayden> But a blog on the otherhand, hides it [12:51] <Ursuul> ^^^^ [12:51] <Ursuul> exactly [12:51] <SuperRobot9338> hmm [12:51] <Ursuul> I like this idea Cap’n [12:51] <Ursuul> I like it a lot [12:51] <SuperRobot9338> i think this might work [12:51] <Ursuul> we could make a Blog listing too! [12:51] <SuperRobot9338> We'd have the Franken Board [12:51] <Ursuul> for game blogs [12:51] <Captain Hayden> I like! [12:51] <Ursuul> so you could go to the Blog listing page for games [12:51] <Ursuul> &amp; take your pick [12:51] <Ursuul> we could sort it by popularity [12:51] <Ursuul> fun games would float up [12:51] <Ursuul> everyone would love it [12:51] <Captain Hayden> This is brilliant!!!!!!!!! [12:51] <Ursuul> ^^ [12:51] <Ursuul> thanks so much Cap’n [12:52] <SuperRobot9338> good idea Hayden [12:52] <Ursuul> you should suggest ideas more often lol [12:52] <Captain Hayden> Yay I'm making a difference XD [12:52] <SuperRobot9338> wait [12:52] <Ursuul> wot [12:52] <Captain Hayden> what? [12:53] <Captain Hayden> SuperRobot.exe has stopped working... [12:53] <Ursuul> ripperini [12:53] <Captain Hayden> Resterino in pepperino [12:53] <Ursuul> but srsly [12:53] <Ursuul> this is an excellent idea [12:53] <SuperRobot9338> nvm [12:53] <Ursuul> o ok [12:54] <Captain Hayden> I'll try to suggest more things Ursuul buddy ;) [12:54] <SuperRobot9338> I think this could work [12:54] <Ursuul> ye ye [12:54] <Ursuul> should I make the blog listing now? [12:54] <Captain Hayden> Go for it! And we can slowly move everything over :) [12:54] <Ursuul> also for now [12:54] <SuperRobot9338> ye [12:54] <SuperRobot9338> plus [12:54] <SuperRobot9338> they can be organised more easily [12:54] <Captain Hayden> ^^^ [12:54] <Ursuul> ^ [12:54] <SuperRobot9338> with categories and the like [12:54] <Ursuul> we should let the Off Topic board stay for now tho [12:54] <Ursuul> so that people can enjoy it [12:55] <Captain Hayden> But phase it out [12:55] <Captain Hayden> Slowly [12:55] <SuperRobot9338> we need a name [12:55] <Ursuul> Games [12:55] <Ursuul> eh? [12:55] <Captain Hayden> generic [12:55] <Ursuul> ye exactly [12:55] <Ursuul> supposed to be [12:55] <Captain Hayden> I like Fun Zone [12:55] <SuperRobot9338> bai [12:55] <Ursuul> ok [12:55] <Captain Hayden> cya [12:55] <Ursuul> we can further subdivide it Hayden [12:55] <Captain Hayden> Or Home Base [12:55] <Ursuul> with more Blog Listing pages [12:55] <Captain Hayden> Okie [12:55] <Captain Hayden> Games works then [12:56] <Ursuul> Games is just like, the overview [12:56] <Ursuul> ye [12:56] <Ursuul> ok get a blog ready [12:56] <Captain Hayden> Cool beans [12:56] <Ursuul> write a games one [12:56] <Captain Hayden> Wait me? [12:56] <Ursuul> ye [12:56] <Ursuul> you can start it off [12:56] <Ursuul> your idea after all :) [12:56] <Captain Hayden> Ahh okie [12:57] <Ursuul> take yer time [12:57] <Ursuul> it may be like [12:57] <Ursuul> 20 minutes [12:58] <Captain Hayden> Well should I make a title and a quick paragraph? [12:58] <Captain Hayden> Or what?