Board Thread:Petitions/@comment-30779788-20171203163351/@comment-29771477-20171206144218

There are four normal users for & five against. That is almost as far from unanimous as you can possibly go. At the end of the day though, even though that sentiment is literally counter to reality, even if it was true it wouldn’t matter. You have outright stated you are “uncomfortable” with Staff voting as equal members of this community, you who were a Staff member yourself. It seems to me that you’re implying we shouldn’t be voting so that a minority of the overall users on this Wikia can get their way. I don’t need to explain the issue with that reaction. I shouldn’t need to address someone who thinks that a large group of people to which I belong shouldn’t have a voice, but I do it anyway because I am expected to be fair & balanced to everyone, even to those who are uncomfortable with me having the same rights as everyone else.

1. What are you counting?? I'm counting people who's votes are invalidated because they're not verified yet or whatever, because ya'know opinions, and I count me and Hayden and Uktar as not necessarily normal users because we were staff at some point which makes it 6 or 7 to 2? I can't tell what Biscuit-whatever-his-name-is said, there's lots of replies. That would be almost unanimous.

2. Hey hey hey hey wait a minute, I'm not saying staff shouldn't vote, @ all you staff! I'm saying it's too bad that we're split on this in this way, and actually no I was just planning on telling you that if the staff do win, we should work a little bit (as always) at trying to reach a compromise here instead of just saying "here's the rules shut up about them", since the minority is large and very upset. I'm not implying anything of the sort, I'm tryna say you should just y'know, mentally acknowledge that "woah, the staff really like strict stuff and normal users not really". That's why it matters, and that's the only thing I'm implying.

That last paragraph is scalding and now you're acting like you hate me, you're kind of putting words in my mouth. Show me where I said "Ursuul, you don't deserve your rights and you don't deserve to vote", show me. Because that's not what I was implying at all. And you should think that's not what I was implying, because that's actually really mean and not how I think at all. Sorry you thought that, Ursuul.